Fair and balanced disagreement

The play-by-play of my review of the Senate bill and my back-and-forth with Mr. Rightcommentary on twitter.  He and I are at odds because, I surmise, we fundamentally disagree on the issue of whether health care is a right or a privilege.  That is a FAIR disagreement.  His theory is based on systemic forces and not a smoking gun in the legislation.  That is also fair.  I can respectfully disagree with him.

Tweets:

  1. I’m on p.104/615 of Senate bill & only controversial provision is feds will give grants to states to provide low cost insurance alternative. 
  2. Sarah P: I’m reading the bills & no death panels so far
  3. the bills don’t create nationalized medicine either. i get to keep my insurance & coverage will be better.
  4. tax is only on certain persons who don’t buy or provide insurance for workers. many exceptions though. Better than use my taxpayer $$ from mobile web
  5. credits for employers who pay full premium; fed grant for under-served communities
  6. p.225 of senate bill tries to set standards of acceptable practice – not as death panel but safe harbor against spurious litigation
  7. oh, wait — p.301 talks about education on medical decision-making btwn patient. MD, family — still no death panels.
  8.  @rightcommentary — i am reading the bills — senate first . what page of HR bill does it say public op for all?
  9. @rightcommentary: really, please point to the page in HR bill. I am reading now.
  10. rightcommentary@40andoverblog The requirements of page 15 as i recall where it sets up what is a “qualified plan” combined with the reqs re: old policies
  11. @rightcommentary: I am reading H.R. 3200. Tell me where the offensive provisions are. 
  12. rightcommentary@40andoverblog it’s just too hard to do in 140 chars. from web in reply to 40andoverblog
  13. rightcommentary@40andoverblog email me an email account at[DELETED] and I’ll give you my theory on how it might work…
  14. @rightcommentary just give me the section references in a few tweets. or you can comment on http://40andoverblog.com
  15. @rightcommentary: creating a floor for basic coverage is not = nationalized medicine. from mobile web
  16. @rightcommentary: with coops instead of a govt-run program, are you ok with the legislation?
  17. rightcommentary no. I’m not. Pretty much anything Washington wants to do other than void the 1973 HMO Act – I’m against.@40andoverblog 

 

end of twitter conversation

Kiss today goodbye

Today:

in 1935, President Franklin D. Roosevelt signed the Social Security Act.  This was a day of celebration for my grandfather who grew up in Czarist Russia and came of age during the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917.

In 1945, Japan surrendered unconditionally to the Allies, ending World War II.

In 1980, Lech Walesa led workers on a strike at the Lenin Shipyard in Gdansk, Poland, leading to the creation of the Solidarity labor movement.

In 2009, Barack Obama, our President, goes to Montana to fight for affordable health care.

Another GOP protest instigator gets caught

Dick Armey hasn’t used his given name, Richard, in a long time because, well, Dick really fits the man he is.

Let’s see, he is stoking and organizing faux protesters to spread baseless rumors and instill fear of health care reform in order to serve the health care industry.  Well, I am not going to quarrel with his not using Richard.

From Politico:

Former House Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-Texas) is resigning from DLA Piper law firm amid a wave of negative attention his grassroots organization, Freedom Works, has drawn for helping to organize protesters at health care town hall meetings with members of Congress.

In an interview with POLITCO Armey said that he was concerned about the media scrutiny the health care protests were drawing to the firm he has been associated with since retiring from Congress.

On Aug. 7 MSNBC host Rachel Maddow raised questions about the law firm’s potential role in the protests.

“In addition to fronting [FreedomWorks], Dick Armey is a senior policy adviser at a law firm called DLA Piper. DLA Piper just happens to have received $830,000 this year, so far, from a giant pharmaceutical firm called Medicines Company. This after the $1.5 million Medicines Company paid Mr. Armey’s firm last year.

“The fact that Dick Armey and FreedomWorks are standing alongside regular Joes like Rick Scott to lead the charge against health care reform could be just a coincidence. Or it could be a stark reminder of who we’re dealing with here. Who is actively organizing the campaign against health care reform? Scaring real Americans with increasingly paranoid and kooky lies about health care and then providing a script for how to express that fear.”

Health Care Lobbyists on Capitol Hill

According to Bloomberg, there are FIVE lobbyists for every one member of Congress and the ratio is growing.  These lobbyists fall along the entire health care spectrum.

The burning question is:  Is this our legislative body or an episode of HBO’s Entourage?

Whistle-blower: Health care industry engaging in PR tactics

Health care companies, like all persons invested in maintaining the status quo, stoop to any thing to prevent change.  The whistleblowers deserve our gratitude and thanks. 

IT IS NOT ABOUT THE OUTCOME; IT IS ABOUT A FAIR AND OPEN DISCUSSION AND DECISION BY VOTE OF OUR ELECTED REPRESENTATIVES.

Are there too few of us who believe in the ideals of the democratic system?

 

From CNN, Wednesday, August 12, 2009

Wendell Potter  . . . [t]he former vice president of corporate communications at insurance giant Cigna, who left his post, says the industry is playing “dirty tricks” in an effort to manipulate public opinion.

“Words matter, and the insurance industry is a master at linguistics and using the hot words, buzzwords, buzz expressions that they know will get people upset,” he told CNN Wednesday.

Now a senior fellow on health care for the watchdog group Center for Media and Democracy, Potter writes a blog on health care reform. He is focusing on efforts to defeat legislation supporting a government health care plan — something he supports.

In early July, Potter testified before the Senate Commerce Committee, telling senators that “I know from personal experience that members of Congress and the public have good reason to question the honesty and trustworthiness of the insurance industry.”

Potter described how underwriters at his former company would drive small businesses with expensive insurance claims to dump their Cigna policies. Industry executives refer to the practice as “purging,” Potter said.

“When that business comes up for renewal, the underwriters jack the rates up so much, the employer has no choice but to drop insurance,” Potter had said.

In an e-mail to CNN, Cigna spokesman Chris Curran denied the company engages in purging.

[go to CNN for more of the article]

Did Glenn Beck really say it is all about reparations?

We all knew that Glenn Beck is a fear-mongerer who has called Obama a racist. Now he says the whole basis for the health care reform is Obama’s desire to pay reparations for slavery.

Ok, there are so many things going on in that STUPID thought that we have to dissect it:

  1. Glenn Beck thinks only African-Americans will benefit from health care reform.
  2. Glenn Beck thinks health care reform that doesn’t benefit only Caucasians is not really reform.
  3. Glenn Beck thinks only true Americans are Caucasian (psst, Glenn, “whites” are not NATIVE Americans (remembered, our nation massacred them), and your family has probably been here only three or four generations).
  4. Glenn Beck thinks President Obama’s only attribute relevant to this debate is that he identifies as an African-American. 
  5. Glenn Beck thinks President Obama by virtue of this single attribute cannot govern for the betterment of the entire country.

GLENN BECK IS A DUMB ASS.

Glenn Beck, you are a sad, twisted guy.  I bet Bill O’Reilly is scared you have your eye on his time slot on Fox News. Which makes you even more evil — you are doing this for money and power and not because you believe it. 

But there is a place for everyone.  For you, Glenn, that place is 1930s Germany.

Faith groups launch campaign in favor of health care reform

Would it be redundant to say, “Thank G-d”? 

I would also like to note that Rabbi David Saperstein gave my brother a job right out of college about 28 years ago in an organization with a mandate for social justice.  Rabbi, you have been at it all these years.  Thank you.

From CNN, August 11, 2009

Religious groups in favor of health care reform have launched a national campaign to offset the loud opposition to President Obama’s plan to overhaul the nation’s health care system, organizers announced.

“This is as much a crisis of faith as it is a crisis of health care,” said the Rev. John Hay Jr., senior pastor of West Morris Street Free Methodist Church in Indianapolis, Indiana.

“We just believe there is a better way.”

He and others spoke in a telephone news conference Monday announcing the campaign.

“As a pastor, I believe access to health care is a profoundly moral issue,” said the Rev. Stevie Wakes of Olivet Institutional Baptist Church in Kansas City, Kansas.

The campaign, called “40 days for Health Reform,” includes a national television advertisement, a “sermon weekend,” prayer meetings and a nationwide call-in with Obama on August 19, organizers said.

Prayer meetings emphasizing health care as a moral issue were taking place Tuesday in 45 cities across 18 states, organizers said. They expected about 4,000 people to participate.

“Healing and health are fundamental religious issues,” said the Rev. Jim Wallis of Sojourners, one of the sponsors of the campaign along with PICO National Network, Faith in Public Life, Faithful America and Catholics in Alliance for the Common Good.

Wallis stressed that participants in the campaign are not going to weigh in on particular policy questions. “It isn’t political in a partisan way,” he said. “This is a fundamental moral issue. … You’re going to hear the moral drumbeat of the faith community.”

Rabbi David Saperstein of the Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism, who also spoke on the conference call, said the current system “doesn’t work for everyone.”

Other groups, such as the Christian Coalition of America and the Family Research Council, are strongly opposed to Democratic proposals to overhaul the health care system, saying, among other things, that they would lead to government-funded abortion.

“We don’t want abortion to enter this debate and sabotage health care reform,” Wallis said. He noted the legislation now being discussed on Capitol Hill is far from a final version.

Opponents of health care reform proposals have confronted U.S. lawmakers at town hall meetings in recent days, drawing heavy media attention with their boisterous protests.

Obama’s Town Hall

Obama needs to hold town halls all over the country.  He is comfortable talking to people and acknowledging where there are problems and questions.  He categorically denied the heinous fear-mongering rumors of death squads and rationing (as distinct from the rationing that happens now).  He pointed to the importance of change and the needless waste now (for example, giving hundreds of billions of dollars of subsidies to the health care companies who have record profits). 

He was willing to accept disagreement.  He was willing to engage in conversation.  He was willing to talk to a Republican.  The astroturfers were smart not to come to this town hall meeting because they would have been exposed for who they are.

The questions could have been tougher and more probing into the specifics.  The President looked ready for them.  The big question I have as a supporter of the reform is how can we make sure this is deficit neutral.  The truth is we won’t know until the plan is underway.  That is scary.  But, right now our health care system is adding $10 billion a year to the deficit.  So if, let’s say, Obama is off by $5 billion, we are still saving money. 

My health care plan didn’t cover emergency room care for me because the nearest hospital wasn’t on the approved list.  Thank G-d I can afford it.  What if I couldn’t?  You, the taxpayers, would have paid.   Now, THAT is taking money out of your pocket.

Palin says Obama’s health care plan is ‘evil’ [but she is the DEVIL]

Is this Sarah Palin’s America?  Fear-mongering and power-grabs?  Did she read the various committee bills?  I don’t think so.

You say that Obama’s health care plan is “evil”.  That is proof enough that it is a good plan.  Why? Because you are the Devil.

ANCHORAGE, Alaska – In her first communication since leaving office, former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin described in an Internet posting Friday that President Barack Obama‘s plan to overhaul the health care system was evil.

“Who will suffer the most when they ration care? The sick, the elderly, and the disabled, of course,” the former vice Republican presidential candidate wrote on her Facebook page.

“The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama’s ‘death panel’ so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their ‘level of productivity in society,’ whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil,” Palin wrote.

An e-mail sent to Palin’s spokeswoman to confirm authorship was not immediately returned Friday.

Obama, a Democrat, campaigned on a promise of offering affordable health care to all Americans, as the United States is the only developed nation that does not have a comprehensive national health care plan for all its citizens.

He has proposed a system that would include government and private insurers. Republicans say that private insurers would be unable to compete, leaving the country with only a government-run health program. They warn that could leave Americans with little control over their health care.

Republican criticism has included claims that the reform plans will lead to rationing, or the government determining which medical procedures a patient can have. However, millions of Americans already face rationing, as insurance companies rule on procedures they will cover.

Denying coverage for certain procedures might increase under proposals to have a government-appointed agency identify medicines and procedures best suited for various conditions.

Denying coverage for certain procedures might increase under proposals to have a government-appointed agency identify medicines and procedures best suited for various conditions.

In the posting, Palin encouraged her supporters to be engaged in the debate. “Nationalizing our health care system is a point of no return for government interference in the lives of its citizens. If we go down this path, there will be no turning back,” Palin wrote.

“Let’s stop and think and make our voices heard before it’s too late,” the posting said.

Palin resigned as Alaska governor on July 26 with nearly 18 months left in her term. She cited not only the numerous ethics complaints that had been filed against her also her wish not to be a lame duck after the first-term governor decided not to seek re-election next year.

Palin, popular with conservatives in the Republican party, has said she wants to build a right-of-center coalition, and there is speculation she will seek the presidency in 2012. In the two weeks since she resigned, Palin has made only one public appearance, giving a Second Amendment rights speech last Saturday before a gun owners group in Anchorage.

Palin also has been largely silent before Friday’s post. She was a voracious user of the social networking site Twitter, and promised to keep her supporters updated with a new private account after she left office. But that hasn’t happened, leaving some of her fans begging for updates in the past two weeks.

Helping Youth-in-Asia

That’s what the GOP must mean.  The GOP doesn’t want our health care bill to allocate money to help the youth in Asia.  Why should we?  Asia can take care of its own youth.

Uh oh.  The GOP is talking about euthanasia.  The health care bill doesn’t promote euthanasia.  That’s wrong and stupid and a scare tactic.  If only the GOP were only against helping the youth in Asia, I would feel bad for them.  Now, I hate them.

(My sister guest-blogged with me on this entry.  Thanks, sis.)